tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post8136698159201526822..comments2024-03-18T08:25:40.019-05:00Comments on Knucklehead Theology: One King, One KingdomSt. Leehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238671101561121436noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post-12002650266077131282014-12-27T18:52:50.435-06:002014-12-27T18:52:50.435-06:00Once again, you still have not offered a single ex...Once again, you still have not offered a single explanation or refutation for the two strongest scriptural arguments for only one kingdom: Matthew 19:23-24 and Matthew 8:11 along with Luke 13:28<br /><br />You have instead offered another rabbit trail ( the salvation offered to the Jews during Pentecost )which I will have to try to find time to answer; but when I do, it will be in the other comments section where you first brought up dispensational salvation.<br /><br />As for my not reading the scripture references you gave, you are wrong. I read them when you first posted each comment. I then read them at least a couple more times before answering your comment. Honestly I have lost count of exactly how any times I have completely read over all your comments. In none (zero, zilch, nada)of them have I seen anything approaching a "proof" for your contention that there are two kingdoms. <br /><br />You ask what is my final authority in spiritual matters? Since the strongest support I gave for one kingdom consists of Jesus' words as found in 3 sections of scripture I believe the answer to that is plain. <br /><br />Until you address the scriptures which plainly and unambiguously show that there is only one kingdom, anyone reading this is likely to conclude that your final authority in spiritual matters is Cyrus Scofield by way of the person who lead the study you refer to.<br /><br />So, how do you answer Matthew 19:23-24 and Matthew 8:11 along with Luke 13:28 ? <br /><br /><br /><br />St. Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238671101561121436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post-43802411269057819142014-12-26T18:53:28.000-06:002014-12-26T18:53:28.000-06:00Lee...first of all, let me state, that I did not &...Lee...first of all, let me state, that I did not 'flood' the comments section with anything from anyone's bible. What I am guilty of is posting large amounts of scripture (from a study that I was present for in its entirety) to refer to the subject of the two kingdoms in the bible comparing and contrasting how they are the same and how they are different. I gather from your response that you neither read them nor referenced the verses that I cited. <br /><br />Even though the subject of the entire bible is about the King and His kingdom, you have chosen to limit yourself to the four gospels to attempt to prove your point. Honest bible study does not have a preconceived 'point' but rather the exhaustive search of scripture should reveal a truth to a person, not picking and choosing verses out of context so that you can say that you are right. <br /> <br />Since I have outlined for you (I did the work, all you have to do is read the verses) the differences between the kingdoms and you state that what I wrote proves that they are the same only tells me that you did not read anything I wrote, nor did you look at the verses I gave you.<br /><br />Since you are still evidently confused about the kingdoms, I suppose that you will also tell me that the salvation offered to the Jews during pentecost (Acts 2:38) is the same as the salvation offered to whosoever will (Eph 2:8-9) during the church age.<br /><br />So...answer me this: What is your final authority in spiritual matters?frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post-80548461096913404812014-12-26T14:47:58.503-06:002014-12-26T14:47:58.503-06:00Fred, Congratulations on one of the finest example...Fred, Congratulations on one of the finest examples of eisegesis I have seen. You have once again offered a plethora of scripture which for the most part support the one kingdom position BETTER than your own position UNLESS you read INTO them the doctrine you bring with you. What you have not offered is a single explanation or refutation for the two strongest scriptural arguments I have given as evidence that there is only one kingdom: one being Jesus words in Matthew 19:23-24 where he equates the two terms by using the word "again", and the other the fact that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will all be in the kingdom of God (Matthew 8:11 and Luke 13:28)<br /><br />Please explain why those arguments are wrong from the Bible rather than ignoring them and flooding the comments section with notes from the Scofield Reference Bible. I am sorry if that sounds harsh - it is only meant to be firm.<br /> <br /><br />St. Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238671101561121436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post-1522461761041019322014-12-25T10:02:50.349-06:002014-12-25T10:02:50.349-06:00 2. The Kingdom of God.
(a) The Kingdom of God is ... 2. The Kingdom of God.<br />(a) The Kingdom of God is a<br />spiritual, invisible kingdom. Its workings cannot be observed with human eyes because it is like God, who is a spirit (John 4:24). It is God ruling from WITHIN the believer, where the Holy Ghost dwells.<br />Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy<br />in the Holy Ghost.<br />Luke 17:20,21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with<br />observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of<br />God is within you.<br />1Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the<br />kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.<br />(b) The Kingdom of God relates primarily to the sons of God<br />(John 1:12), those who have<br />received Jesus Christ and in whom the Spirit of God<br />dwells (1Cor. 3:16; John 14:17).<br />John 3:3,6,7 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be<br />born again, he cannot see<br />the kingdom of God...That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be<br />born again.<br />Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then<br />the kingdom of God is come unto you. (When one is saved, God casts out the evil spirits and the Holy Spirit takes up residence in the believer. See Eph. 2:1-2; Mark 5:15).<br />Colossians 1:12-13 Giving thanks unto the Father...Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son. frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post-44846154822774286932014-12-25T09:57:08.832-06:002014-12-25T09:57:08.832-06:00These two kingdoms are very DIFFERENT in some ways...These two kingdoms are very DIFFERENT in some ways. Knowing the differences between them is one of the most important keys to rightly dividing the Word of truth.<br />1. The Kingdom of Heaven.<br />(a) The Kingdom of Heaven is a<br />physical, material kingdom. Heaven is a physical place, a<br />created part of the material<br />universe (Gen. 1:1). In the kingdom of heaven, God rules<br />over “people, nations, and languages” in the earth.<br />Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Daniel 7:13-14<br />And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all<br />people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.<br />Psalm 72:11 Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations<br />shall serve him.<br />Zech. 9:9-10 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: ...and<br />his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.<br />(b) The Kingdom of Heaven primarily relates to Israel. The expression “kingdom of heaven” is found only in the gospel of Matthew, a book written to the Jews. Israel is at the center of the Kingdom of Heaven and one day will dominate all the other nations of the earth.<br />Jeremiah 23:5, 6 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah<br />shall be saved, and Israel<br />shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be<br />called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.<br />Zechariah 2:11 And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto thee.<br />Revelation 12:5 And she [Israel]<br />brought forth a man child, who was<br />to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.<br /> frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6582429758941507301.post-42555644766665776282014-12-25T09:50:33.861-06:002014-12-25T09:50:33.861-06:00Interesting post Lee, however, limiting your study...Interesting post Lee, however, limiting your study to just the gospels leads you to a conclusion that you can not support when you consider the other 62 books of the bible.<br /><br />There are TWO eternal Kingdoms spoken of in the Bible.<br /><br />A. These two kingdoms are SIMILAR in some ways.<br />1. God established both kingdoms and they will endure forever! (Psalm 145:13; 2Peter 1:11)<br />2. God has absolute power over both kingdoms. (Psalm 103:19; Daniel 4:35)<br />3. God rules over each kingdom through a man of<br />His choosing. (1Chron. 28:4, 5; Eph 1:20-22)<br />Psalm 2:6 Yet have I set my king<br />upon my holy hill of Zion.<br />1Samuel 10:24; 12:13...See ye<br />him whom the LORD hath chosen, that there is none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and said, God save the king...behold,<br />the Lord hath set a king over you.<br />1Samuel 15:1...The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the<br />voice of the words of the LORD.<br />4. God’s Word is the final authority in both kingdoms. (Deut. 17:14-20). Ecclesiastes 8:4<br />Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou? (It is no accident that God has preserved His Word in the English language in the only translation authorized by a King, the King<br />James Bibles!)frednoreply@blogger.com